Then I want to share with you that I fully understand what you said about sometimes sharing about yourself at a workshop. I ran coping skills groups and others in a psyche substance hospital for many years, and I found that when a group was really struggling with a topic, if I shared something of my own personal experience, it would open up a whole new sharing. Many times the doctor's would ask what my secret was, and I would tell them, but they were so trained to keep things on a non-personal level, so many times they would put people in my group when they were having difficulty opening up. Many times someone in the group would say, I wish that I could be as strong and healthy as you are. My reply was at any given time I could be where you are, but today "I am coping", I would always get a sigh of relief, because running workshops or groups , you are sometimes struggling with the subject more at the moment than the students. Thank you for all your sharing, I really appreciate you and your teachings and am grateful to have met you. There is a lot more to this computer than people realize, So many good things.. Blessings, Gale